The Battle maybe over, but the War is on...
The entire country has become involved in the movement against the proposed move by Government of India to offer caste-based reservations. This movement has spread widely, and has acquired a pan-national character, reflecting wide spread anger and resentment against this move, and protesting subsequent attempts by the government and its minions to suppress this movement.
In this background, with total apathy exhibited by the legislature and the executive, the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India has rightly intervened in this ongoing agitation, and directed the Government of India to explain the reasons for seeking these reservations. The court has also observed that the strike by doctors should be withdrawn in the interests of patient care. We welcome this pro-active judgment by the Hon’ble Supreme Court, and reconfirming our full faith in the judiciary so the Resident Doctors' Associations have decided to resume duties with immediate effect.
We feel the judiciary has, by this single judgment, reconfirmed our confidence in the judicial process, and reaffirmed their leading position in evolving a national consensus on this issue. The court has also expressed an opinion about setting up an expert commission, which is welcome.
The movement, now a national movement by the Youth for Equality will continue to grow from strength to strength.
In this background, with total apathy exhibited by the legislature and the executive, the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India has rightly intervened in this ongoing agitation, and directed the Government of India to explain the reasons for seeking these reservations. The court has also observed that the strike by doctors should be withdrawn in the interests of patient care. We welcome this pro-active judgment by the Hon’ble Supreme Court, and reconfirming our full faith in the judiciary so the Resident Doctors' Associations have decided to resume duties with immediate effect.
We feel the judiciary has, by this single judgment, reconfirmed our confidence in the judicial process, and reaffirmed their leading position in evolving a national consensus on this issue. The court has also expressed an opinion about setting up an expert commission, which is welcome.
The movement, now a national movement by the Youth for Equality will continue to grow from strength to strength.
posted by Prahalathan at 10:40 PM
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Keep up the good work until the goal is reached...
I'll be right there for the protests. Kudos to the Organisers.
Our Prayers are with you to succeed in your fight for a BETTER INDIA
We have to inform about this protest to as many people by means of chain mails, phones, sms, etc., and make it a big crowd unlike last time. Let's fight till the end, till the goal is reached. Let's all strive hard to create a new India.
Jai Hind.
hmm.. good luck! hope this one gains media attention unlike the previous one..
and yea, mebbe try sumfin like signature campaign, black band day awareness (supposed to be on june 1st rite?) etc. so that ppl dun remain ignorant as always!
chennai ppl arent into this thing too much.. very reserved!!
http://anandlakshmanan.blogspot.com/
not that they are reserved they are threatened to come out as Veeramani has a group of gangsters who threatens us to beat and destroy our house
in order to get a crowd contact student chairmans or pre final year students from IIT,ANNA UNIVERSITY,MIT,LOYOLA
With Cutoff rates of OBC & Gen almost the same, more Quotawallahs are barging into the general pool every year in TN. The Competition is getting more tough every year for the General students. The 12 % OC in the state has to either work very hard and get 95+ scores or should be welloff to make atleast into the professional studies (forget Medical studies). This regime is getting even worse than the African apartheid or the Nazi Germany kicking out an entire class of people who used to be the knowledge & moral powerhouse of the state, who've strived very hard to bring up the whole Nation, to lose their opportunities only to rich Gounders, Vanniyars, Nadars who are using the privilege in every generation and will ultimately use in future. Atleast the Temple jobs used to be "de-facto" reserved for Brahmins, but now that also had gone out of hand, courtesy the Atheist Karunanidhi.
It's unfortunate that the rest of the country is following suit like TN with the obvious same fate for the OC's. Whatever protests we do & whatever "opinion" SC gives, this Govt is goin' to shoot it down by any means, with no possible opposition from even the opposition. Let's all prepare to live in an autocratic regime which shuns out & crushes it's own people making sure all of us remain poors and keep on voting them, including the non-General, as most opportunities are & will be taken by only the rich OBC's "repeatedly".
@anonymous
>making sure all of us remain poors and keep on voting them,
you are so poor that u could offer to buy a comp,use net to blog with it,have a digi cam to photograph the protests(no matter no one was present in durin the protests).
>in order to get a crowd contact student chairmans or pre final year students from IIT,ANNA UNIVERSITY,MIT,LOYOLA
vaadi vaa
>African apartheid or the Nazi Germany kicking out an entire class of people ,
Apartheid was by the "upper class" synonymous with the "upper caste"
>who used to be the knowledge & moral powerhouse of the state, who've strived very hard to bring up the whole Nation
u could be the "power house" because there was a board hanging "entry restricted" in front of the "power house".
@ish
>chennai ppl arent into this thing too much.. very reserved!!
atleast chennai ppl are ready to accept social changes.
@sudha
>Our Prayers are with you to succeed in your fight for a BETTER INDIA
Better india with 5% of the population better and 95% worser
@anonymous
>Keep up the good work until the goal is reached...
goal has been reached 1000 years ago.now its the time for other side to "enter the play ground"
Yeh Velu...
Read my post correctly... I perhaps didn't mean me as poor. All those real poors are given only a token & lip service by this reservation regime and all the privileges are being used by only a creamy segment generation after generation all these years.
u guys r totally mis-guided by this Cong dynasty for 6 decades. Social justice needs to be done for sure, but it needs to be done from the root level in the society and not perhaps by reservations at any level.
Velu... If u urself want to use these privileges again for u or ur kids, send ur Mom, Sister or Daughter to any deserving poor ANY caste guy for some nights and use it as many times as u want.
Velu kind of guys are totally mis-guided and mis-informed of current India in this 6 decades. They need better basic education without any privileges of guaranteed jobs.
It's a fact that all these reservation concept has failed miserably all these decades with only very few getting benefitted repeatedly generation after generations and we still have millions of economically deprived people who doesn't even know what's this all about and how it can benefit them. Even if they get familiar, they gotto meet the minimum criterions required by the institutions, even which they cannot get thru. How long more years we gonna wait for these guys to get to a position to avail the free-perks compromising our HR qualities, bashing the talented (though in poverty), dividing ourselves by castes and overriding our constitution.
This selfish Congi kingdom had polluted the country by all means in all sections in this 6 decades. Innocent majority people are made into belief that reserving the already minimum supplies for the majority by kicking out the deserving minorities is the right solution, instead of actually increasing the supplies or making all of us self-reliable and self-deserving, or making an effort to start from the scratch to improve the overall economics of such down-troddens. The level-playing field it has created all these years is in such a low level, which even BJP is forced to play on.
When will they ever realize that all these developments the country has made so far were mostly by the hard works of these self-deserving few people, no matter of which quota they are from. We already are making only a gradual progress much below our capabilities and We sure will not be able to make the progress as fast as we COULD, after this quota regime. We are deliberately building a Nation of 3rd quality man power when we have the capability to compete with the whole world, just for the sake of Congress retaining the power.
It was a big failure in the part of the successive Cong. Govts to have let the people live in a fictious world of reservations and now it can not do away with it, even if it ever wants to. People are very much used to having seperate elite queues to get their supplies instead of asking for more supplies from the Govt., providing all. The worst part of it all being it always turns out be more people end-up (or succeed) in wrong queues and deserving people in both queues don't get their supplies. No1 seems to realize that this is just a temporary solution given by our constitution framers and not for ever. It's practically impossible to enforce an economy based reservation with people can quickly adapt to the short-cuts just like the bogus OBC certificates. Abolishing the entire quota system + perks on whichever basis and levels and pursuing towards a straight forward solution to increase the supplies by strenghning the basic education system at grass roots is the need of the hour. Who'll ever do this?
Let's make this a second struggle for independence to get rid of this psychic anti-National politicos. Let's build a nation giving equal importance to all it's citizens and putting the country squarely on the development path.
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Talking about media coverage, I have lately observed that the Times of India frequently publishes articles which tend to be biased towards "pro-quota"... for example read this article by Janaki Nair in today's TOI editorial... Pls note that I do not subscribe to these views but I take these as just another viewpoint (albeit a narrow one)...
Some excerpts:
So whose interests do AIIMS protesters stand for? Apart from being called a 'movement' by the press, there are no signs that this collective whine has risen above self-interest.
In their hour of concern about their future which had been guaranteed by the Indian state for six decades, the students who are against quotas don their lab coats like the Phrygian cap, to recall and give artificial respiration to all kinds of 'universals' forgotten since their fifth standard civics lesson: democracy, equality, the beleaguered category of merit, the anguish of the common man, the belief in the progress of the nation, and so on.
No one thus far has broken down the walls of the state secretariat to be allotted a share of jobs as municipal sweepers, which have for long remained 'reserved' for lower castes, as are all kinds of other menial jobs in the lower bureaucracy; no one speaks of the fate of Muslims in India, who are equally under-represented in all institutions and services of the state.
TOI had published another article which had pro-quota tones... We need to do little more PR with TOI, which having one of the largest reach in terms of leadership in order to make our voices heard !!!
In democracy it is not enough if one is a good citizen. In order for democracy to work effectively it is necessary as a Good Samaritan one ensures that others are also good citizens. If one observes bad behaviour one needs to be vocal about it and condemn it. If somebody feels that something is not right they need to make their voice heard and ensure that people hear their voice.
Being a mute spectator in democracy is not participation. One needs to get involved in everyday activities related to ones surroundings, society and country as a whole. A citizen needs to have unflinching love for his country and must get involved in betterment of the society.
Every step that he takes towards goodness hinders the evil pervading the society by another step. It is an everyday war between the good and evil. Nothing good will happen on its own cosmically. One needs to assume that there exists no cosmic force outside us and all the force that needs to bring the change in society lies inside us.
If a change or revolution needs to be brought into the society it we who need to cause it. We have to exert ourselves to action in order to ensure that there is movement of the wheel in the right direction. By inertia the society will move in the wrong direction. It is we who need to make it move in the right direction.
Why should I care? I pay my taxes, isn't that sufficient? No, If you are paying taxes more the need for you to get involved with the country. You need to find out how the government is utilizing your money. Is it using for the benefit of the society. What is the use of paying money every year to somebody if he is not giving it back to you with interest? The idea behind collecting taxes by the government is that government uses its judiciously for the collective good. You have to be concerned if the government is not using it for collective good.
What the reservation movement needs is not your money. It needs your time. You have to stand there in the roads holding the placards in the hot sun, bearing the rough weather or in the rain as the case may be. You must be undeterred and your focus should be on the vision. Every act of voluntary work done by you will help in a great way in the cause.
If you don’t act now, history will look upon you as coward, who didn’t act when he was supposed to. He didn’t do when his country called him to act. Good will slowly lose grip over society and evil will take over. Once evil takes over don’t ask God for help or don’t curse yourself for not having acted when it was time to act.
Act now for history will never forgive you.
All the best guys.. we are also conducting a protest on the same day in hyderabad...
Velu:
First of all, let's get the facts right. Bhramin hegemony, if at all it existed, was atleast a century ago. During the past century or so society and inter-caste attitudes have vastly changed. You will agree i am sure that in the current political scene in TN, it is mostly the VELLALAS, VANNIYARS and THEVARS giving the rest of the
OBCs and Dalits a hard time.
Punishing your peers today for past grievances met out centuries ago by their ancestors is foolish. By that measure, everybody in India will have an axe to grind on everybody else. Why not start with Cholas, Pandyas et al. Talk progressive.
There is no denying that OBCS and SC/STs are just as capable as FCs. It is just a question of giving them the right primary education so that they can compete as equals with FCs. Introducing reservations at advanced educational levels is nothing but a shortcut and one day will come back to haunt the very group that is fighting to implement it.
Think about it, in 25 years OBCs and SC/STs will be much better off, but do you really want your children to only have 56% seats available vs 100% (25 obc + 31 open category). It denies everybody equal opportunity.
India can surely do without bloody ppl like Velu who wont work, stay lazy and take advantage of their so called 'unprivileged' castes n demand seats in prestigious instts..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/quotarowananthakrishnan.ram
Please listen to this.Send letters
of protest to BBC and Ananthakrishnan.He has tried to
distort the issue and has stated that those who oppose reservations are for market forces in higher
education.Listen to the interview
and send your response to BBC.
Let BBC Tamil Sevai give space
to those who oppose reservations.
Anathakrishnan is chairman of
Madras Institute of Studies (MIDS)
Adayar. www.mids.ac.in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/quotarowananthakrishnan.ram
Please listen to this.Send letters
of protest to BBC and Ananthakrishnan.He has tried to
distort the issue and has stated that those who oppose reservations are for market forces in higher
education.Listen to the interview
and send your response to BBC.
Let BBC Tamil Sevai give space
to those who oppose reservations.
Anathakrishnan is chairman of
Madras Institute of Studies (MIDS)
Adayar. www.mids.ac.in
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Reservations – Some Questions and their Answers
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Q: What is reservation?
The word reservation is a misnomer. The appropriate word for it used in the
Indian constitution is Representation. It is not given to anyone in his
individual capacity. It is given to individual as a representative of the
underprivileged community. The beneficiaries of reservations are in turn
expected to help their communities to come up.
Q: Why reservation?
The policy of reservations is being used as a strategy to overcome
discrimination and act as a compensatory exercise. A large section of the
society was historically denied right to property, education, business and
civil rights because of the practice of untouchability. In order to
compensate for the historical denial and have safeguards against
discrimination, we have the reservation policy.
Q: Were Reservations incorporated by the founding fathers of the
constitution only for first 10 years?
Only the political reservations (seats reserved in Loksabha, Vidhansabha,
etc) were to be reserved for 10 years and the policy review was to be made
after that. That is why after every 10 years the parliament extends
political reservations.
The 10 year limit for reservations is not true for the reservations in
education and employment. The reservations in educational institutions and
in employment are never given extension as it is given for the political
reservations.
Q: Why give reservations on basis of caste?
To answer this question we must first understand why the need for the
reservations has arisen. The cause for the various types of disabilities
that the underprivileged castes in India face / have faced, is the systemic
historical subjugation of a massive magnitude based on caste system having a
religious sanction. Therefore if the caste system was the prime cause of all
the disabilities, injustice and inequalities that the Dalit-Bahujans
suffered, then to overcome these disabilities the solution has to be
designed on basis of caste only.
Q: Why not on basis of economic criterion?
Reservations should never be based on economic status for various reasons as
follows:
1. The poverty prevailing among the Dalit-Bahujans has its genesis in the
social-religious deprivations based on caste system. Therefore poverty is an
effect and caste system a cause. The solution should strike at the cause and
not the effect
2. An individual’s Economic status can change. Low income may be taken to
mean poverty. But the purchasing value of money, in India, depends upon
caste. For example a Dalit can not buy a cup of tea even in some places.
3. Practical difficulties in proving economic status of individual to the
state machinery are many. The weak may suffer.
4. In caste ridden India infested with rampant corruption, even for an
unchangeable status like caste, the false “Caste Certificate” can be
purchased. How much easier will it be to purchase a false “Income
Certificate”? So income based reservation is impractical. It is no use
arguing when both certificates can be bought, why caste only should form
basis of reservation. It is certainly more difficult to buy a false caste
certificate than a false income certificate.
5. Reservation is not an end in itself. It is a means to an end. The main
aim is to achieve the active participation and sharing by the “socially
excluded” humanity in all the fields of the affairs of the society. It is
not panacea for all ills, neither it is permanent. It would be a temporary
measure till such time the matrimonial advertisements in newspaper columns
continue to contain the mention of caste.
Q: Should there be a creamy layer criterion or not?
The demand from anti-reservationists for introduction of creamy layer is
ploy to scuttle the whole effectiveness of reservations. Even now out of all
seats meant for SC/STs in IITs , 25-40 % seats remain vacant because it
seems IITs do not find suitable candidates. Just imagine what would happen
if by applying creamy layer criterion the SC/ST middle class, lower middle
class people who are in position to take decent education are excluded from
reservations benefit ! Will the poor among SC/STs be able to compete with
these ‘privileged ’students’ trained under Ramaiah and at various IIT-JEE
training centers at Kota ?
Of course Not.
This will lead to 100 % seats in IITs for SC/STs going vacant.
Q: How long should the reservations continue?
The answer to this question lies with the anti-reservationists. It depends
on how sincerely and effectively the policy makers which constitute
“privileged castes” people in executive, judiciary and legislature,
implement the reservations policy.
Is it just on part of “privileged castes” people who have enjoyed undeclared
exclusive reservations for past 3000 years and continue to enjoy the same
even in 21st century in all religious institutions and places of worship, to
ask for the timelines for reservations policy?
Why do not they ask, how long the exclusive reservations for particular
community in the religious institutions and places of worship are going to
continue?
The people who have acquired disabilities due to inhuman subjugation for
3000 years will need substantial time to come over those disabilities. 50
years of affirmative action is nothing as compared to 3000 years of
subjugation.
Q: Will not the reservations based on castes lead to divisions in the
society?
There are apprehensions that reservations will lead to the divisions in the
society. These apprehensions are totally irrational. The society is already
divided into different castes. On the contrary reservations will help in
annihilating the caste system. There are around 5000 castes among the SC/ST
and OBCs. By grouping these various castes under 3 broad categories of SC,
ST and OBC, the differences among 5000 separate castes can be abridged. This
is a best way of annihilation of castes. Therefore rather than making
rhetoric about reservations leading to divisions in the society the
anti-reservationists should make honest and sincere efforts to annihilate
castes. Have these people made any efforts towards this direction? In most
of the cases the answer is NO. The people making these anti-reservations
rhetoric, all this time have been enjoying all the privileges that the
Indian caste system offers to the “Privileged Castes”. As long as they enjoy
the privileges of the caste system they do not have any qualms regarding it.
But when it comes to making castes as basis for achieving social equality by
providing representations these same people make noises. These are the
double standards of highest order practiced by the ‘privileged’ people.
Q: Will not reservations affect the Merit?
As regards to how Merit is defined in a very narrow sense and what it
actually means, following is the quote from an article by Prof Rahul Barman
of IIT Kanpur.
“Is merit all about passing exams? After all, are the exams a means or an
end? If the exams are means to look for ability to make better engineers,
doctors and managers, then can there be better methods to look for such
ability? After all in my first engineering class I was told that a good
engineer is the one who can produce the best out of the least resources and
similarly, management is supposed to find one’s way in an uncertain
situation – or allocate scarce resources in the most optimal way possible.
If that is so, whatever I have seen of our deprived masses (of which
overwhelming majority belongs to the backward, dalit castes or adivasis),
they have the astonishing capacity to make something productive from almost
next to nothing! For the last few years I have been studying small industry
clusters, like Moradabad brass, Varanasi silk and Kanpur leather. Put
together (all the clusters in the country), they are exporting more than the
IT sector and their cumulative employment will be several times of the
whole of IT industry. In all these clusters they operate with miniscule
resources – small investment, no electricity, forget about air-conditioning,
non existent roads, lack of water, and little formal education. These
clusters are primarily constituted of these so called backward/ dalit castes
and are truly a tribute to the genius that our society is. But in spite of
centuries of excellence these communities have hardly produced any formal
‘engineers’, ‘doctors’ and ‘managers’, and conversely these elite
institutions have not developed any linkages with such industries and their
people. ”
Reservations of more than 60 % have existed in the 4 states of southern
India and around 40 % in Maharashtra since last 50 years. On other hand in
the north Indian states the 15 % ‘privileged castes’ have been enjoying 77 %
of the seats in educational institutions and in employment (assuming that 23
% reservations for SC/STs are totally filled, which is not the case). The
World Bank study has found that all the 4 south Indian states are much ahead
of north Indian states in terms of their human development index. It is a
common knowledge that all the southern states and Maharashtra are much ahead
in fields of education, health, industrial development, in implementing
poverty alleviation schemes, etc. than the north Indian states. This shows
that reservations have indeed helped the southern Indian states in making
progress on various fronts. Whereas lack of adequate reservations is
responsible for the lack of development in most of the north Indian states.
Q: Have existing reservations for SC/STs been effective or not?
The reservation policy in the public sector has benefited a lot of people.
The Central government alone has 14 lakh employees. The proportion of
Scheduled castes in class III and IV is well above the quota of 16 per cent
and in class I and II, the proportion is around 8–12 per cent. So, the
middle and the lower middle class that we see today from the Dalit community
is because of reservation. With no reservation, the entry of these people in
government services would have been doubtful.
The situation is similar in education. An article in the EPW (Economic and
Political Weekly) estimates that there are seven lakh SC /ST students in
higher education and about half of them are there because of reservation.
Reservation has certainly helped but there are limitations in any policy
with the way it is implemented.
As admissions to PG courses in Maharashtra medical colleges through PGM-CET 2006 is over,many open category students have contacted us and put forward some facts.
As we all know, 50% seats are reserved and 50% seats are for Open Category.
But 22 seats from open quota went to the students of reservation categories due to Ear marking. And more than half of these were from the top 4 Medical colleges of mumbai i.e. 15 seats. Thus open category students are getting even less than 50% seats. i.e. 46.01% seats of Maharashtra (252 / 547) and 44.24% seats of the top 4 medical colleges of Mumbai (123 / 278).
This in spite of the fact that in the-
First 50, 43 are from open category.
First 100, 77 are from open category.
First 200, 145 are from open category.
The figures can be confirmed from offical website of DMER.
What you have to say?
Hello Friends!
Government of India is all prepared to implement OBC quota from next year.That is what all politicians sitting in Govenment want so as to expand their vote bank.
But what all students in India feel?We will have a Poll on this blog-site.At the bottom of right side-bar of this blog you will find a box in white background which has a question which asks your opinion regarding quota in higher educational institutes like AIIMS and IIM.
This will be a fair poll as one person can vote only once.This poll will run this whole month and on 1st August 2006,you will see a detailed result on my blog.
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